M-1 PRT?

A light rail line running from Pontiac to Detroit could carry over half a million people in a twelve hour day. Today we have between 21,000 and 31,000 using that route. That’s about 5% of the traffic that is now riding the bus. If the projections are close to being right about 5,500 will take a streetcar between New Center and Downtown. Right now the bus ridership on the 53 is around 8,500 but most of them (from my experience) start out north of New Center.

From the perspective of running a PRT (personal rapid transit) type system from New Center to downtown 13,000 people could ride individually in a twelve hour day. That is more than the projected 5,500 people riding a streetcar.

So on to the streetcar proposal. When I attended the event on February 28th I expected the streetcar to run down the center of the street like it did in the early days like in these historical photos. That was what got me working on a proposal for PRT down Woodward.

For several years I have been working on a proposal to bring a PRT system to southeast Michigan like this July 2011 plan, but I avoided the Woodward corridor figuring that the streetcar would take care of that area. A side running route caused me to revisit this area. I am not sure what is going on but my suspicion is that it revolves around cost. During an earlier presentation when the line was to run to Eight Mile I questioned a turn around the Coleman Young Municipal Center. I was told that the train cars would have to be outfitted with special bogies like they used in Salt Lake City. They would cost several million more!

Likewise I sense that the decision to run down the side of Woodward is due to costs. I suspect that that also means that T-Rails would be run instead of“Block Rail”. The difference could run about 3.5 million and would be a big step in preventing bike riders from using Woodward. A “Block Rail” has a 1.5 inch gap where the T-Rail has a 2.5 inch gap. The cost of support wires could run a lot less as well.

The biggest concern for me is the bus service that would be interrupted by running streetcars down the side. If there are about 11,000 passengers traveling on this line (Eight Mile to downtown) and only 5,500 taking the train (which seems a little bit illogical) how do the buses get to drop people off? Does the bus not run down Woodward from New Center? If so that means two transfers, one at State Fair and one at New Center. That is not conducive to getting people to ride the streetcar.

Detroit metro area is in a unique situation in that it has a very poor transit system. As a city it does not have a cohesive system and even with the RTA it has only the ability to mandate cooperation between some of the systems in operation. It can also award the rights to roadways to a system. Without funding besides the several hundred thousand in state money it can not do much more.

As I researched PRT systems, self driving cars became real in the sense that several states actually “legalized” them. PRT (personal rapid transport) has been around a long time, since the 1970 in earnest. Yet it has never taken off. They are essentially a self driving cars on a fixed track, so why not let them get off the track?

At one point I actually thought about making PRT a pedal system as well but in talking to Bubble Motion’s founder that quickly got dropped. Yet why could not every pod become a carrier for a bicycle. That got me to thinking of a system that allowed you to get to a pod car within a few miles, by riding a bike. Something large for the metro area, like this:

If we had a system of pods that could carry a bike operating on system like this it would be easy to get around. Some of the tracks could be laid on the ground but most of them would be elevated. Some areas could have self driving routes, like at the airport or malls.

The way I see a system coming together is by starting small with private money. Right now there are no manufacturers of a PRT system made in the US. This creates a problem when funding a transit system that uses federal funds mandating that all (most, the stick that measures rail spacing is not made in the US) components be US made.

The Woodward corridor as redesigned for a PRT type system could start out by building perhaps the center loop shown below. The spaces to fill in could run up Woodward or take a detour wherever it was felt the need might be, like Henry Ford Hospital.

Getting back to the streetcar proposal there are concerns about bike riders using Woodward with side running cars but there is also the ridership projection and the bus stopping issues. Along with unexpected cost overruns such as Tucson’s that likely to cost a lot more each year.

How does a company get off the ground? Especially when the cost of doing business will likely run into billions of dollars. By forming a company that is structured to take on value each year and thus incorporating other partners over time. That would be a start and I’ll fill you in on more details in a latter posting.

Codes

A simple code:

Round((If(buy it now price < caseif, buy it now price, caseif) * group sale) – ((group sale – 1) * buy it now profit),0)

A complex code:

If(sell type = "nbf auction",auction price & f5 & v6 insurance & match::Auction 1 & f3 & match::Auction 2 & "thanks for bidding" & match::Auction 3 & f7 & match::Auction 3a & f5 & match::Auction 4 & four code workon Clone::description & " " &"” & “$” & ship & “” & match::Auction 5 & payment policy 5 & match::Auction 6 &” ” & v6insert notes 2::description & ” “& ” ” &”” & v6 insurance & ““&” ” & v61insert notes 3::description & “

” & supplier list::Ship to &match::Auction 7 & match::V6 48 & match::Auction 8 & refund policy 14 &”

” & ““& match::Auction 9 & f2 & supplier & match::supplierid & match::Auction 10 ,If(sell type = “doba auction”,auction price & f5 & v6 insurance & match::Auction 1 & f3 & match::Auction 2 & “thanks for bidding” & match::Auction 3 & f7 & match::Auction 3a & f5 & match::Auction 4 & four code workon Clone::description & ” ” &”” & “$” & ship & “” & match::Auction 5 & payment policy 5 & match::Auction 6 &” ” & v6insert notes 2::description & ” “& ” ” &”” & v6 insurance & ““&” ” & v61insert notes 3::description & “

” & supplier list::Ship to &match::Auction 7 & match::V6 48 & match::Auction 8 & refund policy 14 &”

” & ““& match::Auction 9 & f2 & supplier & match::supplierid & match::Auction 10,If(sell type = “postage included A”,auction price & f5 & v6 insurance & match::Auction 1 & f3 & match::Auction 2 & “thanks for bidding” & match::Auction 3 & f7 & match::Auction 3a & f5 & match::Auction 4 & four code workon Clone::description & ” ” &”” & “$” & ship & “” & match::Auction 5 & payment policy 5 & match::Auction 6 &” ” & v6insert notes 2::description & ” “& ” ” &”” & v6 insurance & ““&” ” & v61insert notes 3::description & “

” & supplier list::Ship to &match::Auction 7 & match::V6 48 & match::Auction 8 & refund policy 14 &”

” & ““& match::Auction 9 & f2 & supplier & match::supplierid & match::Auction 10,If(sell type = “doba fixed” and listing type = “Bedding”,buy it now price &”-” & f5 & “-” & v6 insurance & match::ug yellow 1 & f3 & match::ug2 &match::ug2b & “thanks for visiting my store” & match::ug3 & f7 & match::ug3a & f5 & match::ug4 & four code workon Clone::description & ” ” &”” & “$” & ship & “” & match::ug5 & payment policy 5 & match::ug6 &” ” & v6insert notes 2::description & ” “& ” ” &”” & v6 insurance & ““&” ” & v61insert notes 3::description & “

” & supplier list::Ship to &match::ug7 & match::V6 48 & match::ug8 & refund policy 14 &”

” & ““& match::ug9 & f2 & supplier & match::supplierid & match::ug10,If(listing type = “garden” or “coffee” or “cutting board,table service” or “Patio” or “woodworking kits” or “woodworking supplies”, buy it now price &”-” & f5 & “-” & v6 insurance & match::ug border 1a & Backgrounds 2::html& match::ug border 1 & f3 & match::ug2 &match::ug2b & “buy this now for only”” “”$” & buy it now price & ” ” & “Total with shipping is” & ” ” & sell price ship & match::ug3 & f7 & match::ug3a & f5 & match::ug4 & four code workon Clone::description & ” ” &”” & “$” & ship & “” & match::ug5 & payment policy 5 & match::ug6 &” ” & v6insert notes 2::description & ” “& ” ” &”” & v6 insurance & ““&” ” & v61insert notes 3::description & “

” & supplier list::Ship to &match::ug7 & match::V6 48 & match::ug8 & refund policy 14 &”

” & ““& match::ug9 & f2 & supplier & match::supplierid & match::ug10, “left off”)))))

Voting

I live on the fringe of what others do. So I think. The only political ad I saw much of was for Proposition 4 and maybe 6. Watching Hulu is the only TV I get. I live in the world that has smart phones on the bus, but I do not. I have a pay as I go plan that costs $15 to $30 a month Some days I just let it go off for a few. So I never got any phone calls on the election. I voted in Michigan which had six proposals and five of them wanted to change to constitution, but I don’t think that is the way to change laws. Yes I voted yet I kept my Ann Arbor address even though I live in Detroit. So some of the issues that I feel strongly about did not get my attention and the judges did not either. But I did not have to endure the barrage of ads that a lot of you do. Thank the powers that decide!

Corporate (LLC) Question

I have a plan that I’m not interested in showcasing at the moment, in part because I have not found an attorney that will answer my questions about setting up a company to handle the logistics of it.

I am interested in finding out if a company can be established with a set of investors that would be initial shareholders of about 15 to 20% of the company with a requirement that the balance of shares be released over the next five years with (supposedly) greater dollar requirements to get involved.

Anyone that has the answer to this question give me a shout at michwood(at)msn.com

Another Jam Handy Post

The Jam Handy (the lovely building that houses this little social club) is undergoing a fundraising siege! Please join us for any and all of the following events. All proceeds will go towards getting permanent heating, awesome lights, and a sweet sound system in the space. Ya!

Yours truly,

The JSC

Saturday, October 20th

JAM HANDY FUN-draiser!
This weekend, there are plenty of shenanigans happening in the city, so why not stack your plate high, and add the Jam Handy to your list of things to get into!

DJs in the big room!
Amy Dreamcatcher
Uno Mas (Claire D’Aoust)
DJ Hairy Nilsson (Dan Austin)
Sabado Gigante
The Rev. Robert David Jones

11p-2ish
$5
The Jamison Social Club
2900 east grand blvd
detroit, MI 48202

They did a great job of getting the funding they needed to install some heating and lighting. Join them to continue the effort!

Jamison Social Club (music)

This is to inform you of several events tonight and tomorrow that are happening at the Jamison Social

Tomorrow night! (10.12.13)

DREAD WINGS
Throwback sludge-psych

HORSE LORDS
Baltimore’s finest hypno-rock music supergroup – members of Max Eilbacher, Owen Gardner, Andrew Bernstein and more!

URETHRA FRANKLIN
¿¿¿ “Free jazz” ???

DJ BILJAX AKA BILL SPENCER ON THE RECORDS

LIVE AT THE JAM HANDY
$5 FOR THE TOURING LIVE ENTERTAINMENT VAN
10PM

Also…

Uke Club! This Saturday (10.13.12) @ 2pm. Yes, the ukuleles are back. Won’t you join us? I’ve got a couple extra laying around if you don’t have one, and I can personally show you how to play a Supreme’s song … classy, uke style. Oh, and I’m making cookies. If you plan on attending, pretty please send a confirmation email to lady@happyabandon.com. Thanks!

PS: The Jam Handy needs your help! Please donate to its indiegogo campaign at http://www.indiegogo.com/jamhandydetroit. $5 dollars gets you a high five, and $15,000 gets them heat, light, electrical work, and sound! That means year-round fun times in the big room! That would be awesome!

The campaign is only $700.00 dollars away from reaching it’s heating goal! That’s sooo close! Donate today! Ya!

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‘Motion to Makeover’ project transforms Southwest park

Home Depot redoes a city park, should they be involved if they do not keep constant tabs on it?

Alright, why will this look like a mess in a few years? Because no one is coming back to alter it. No one is taking care of it. Detroit needs concerns like businesses, organizations, and community groups to volunteer to keep its city’s parks and recreational departments. (… a new beginning?)